Yep. Good thing I spend very little time @ WOT doing the 1/4 mile. 11 secs or so haha.It's fine to use E30. The only reason for @WildHorse to do a check log is because he has a 18 intake manifold on a gen 2 coyote with gen 2 injectors. The 18 manifold reves higher and flows more air than the gen 2 manifold.
That's the colonels secret recipe.E30 should give full MBT timing
No dyno but we tested this on a bone stock 2024. A gen3 and whatever gen the 2024 has (3.5?), they can’t hit mbt (26-27 according to ford) on 93 octane. The ones I’ve logged usually wind up around 24 after knock retard. The 2024 was hitting 26.5 in a log on e30 and fuel trims were well within normal ranges, similar to wildhorse’s log. So what’s 2.5 deg timing worth? Survey says on an na motor probably 15 hp give or take 5.Wouldn't mind seeing an E10 to E30 back to back dyno if anyone's ever done one
Right.. good thing I can bump up my low RPM & High RPM timing. Pretty sure with E30 you can run 28 degrees or so.The 2024 was hitting 26.5 in a log on e30 and fuel trims were well within normal ranges, similar to wildhorse’s log. So what’s 2.5 deg timing worth? Survey says on an na motor probably 15 hp give or take 5.
You thought right.I figure 91 octane will be more than ample for highway traffic and would still allow me to "whack the throttle" if I felt the urge while on vacation.
So, the car won't be running too lean with even a lower/E30 level of ethanol?These cars are capable of running 100% E. Just the stock tune will throw a code when trims get past a certain range.
Verified again by wildhorse.If so, then my cheap bastage E19 mix "should" work tomorrow when I go chasing the eclipse in OH.???
Ethanol makes more power even at a fixed timing when compared to gasoline.I never have understood the want for running e30. What's the benefits? A couple degrees of timing? The PCM is already adding timing anyway considering the stock calibration is tuned for 87 octane. Timing advance is probably already tapped out with running 91. I doubt you will notice any difference with a butt dyno especially if you're N/A still.
Thanks for the info sherlock.... A good tune with GOOD 93 should see something like 25 degrees of timing N/A. Very much inside MBT. Adding a little bit of E is only going to net you a couple more degrees of timing.... You guys think you're going to actually make a ton more power, but you are not. Being boosted will net more gains considering boosted you will be around 15 degrees give or take. So doing e30 makes much more sense. N/A, not so much.Ethanol makes more power even at a fixed timing when compared to gasoline.
If you're gonna be snarky you need to be correct.Thanks for the info sherlock.... A good tune with GOOD 93 should see something like 25 degrees of timing N/A. Very much inside MBT. Adding a little bit of E is only going to net you a couple more degrees of timing.... You guys think you're going to actually make a ton more power, but you are not. Being boosted will net more gains considering boosted you will be around 15 degrees give or take. So doing e30 makes much more sense. N/A, not so much.
In the OPs case he's using 91 so it should be much better to run e30.