'17 GT350 vs '17 Camaro SS 1LE

[ZaneWayne]

Nah, it is pure fantasy.

Comparing the 2015 z28 to the 2017 1Le, the new 1Le is only 80-90lbs lighter than the z28. The z28 has far superior tires, wheels, track, engine, transmission, the CoG on a 5th Gen was an inch lower, Carbon Ceramic rotors at 15 inches in diameter. Nah... not happening. A 1Le can't touch a z28 on any track.

Now, GM promised a 2017 1Le to be 230lbs lighter than the 3870lbs example in 2015 right? Just as the ATS-V went from 3700lbs to 3803 like thePill warned, the 1Le did the same.

Unfortunately, the weight that was pulled in order to make an SS 3700lbs was added back in to some models. The Alpha is said to be "scalable". The 1Le just gained 100lbs over night. They did not achieve the 230lbs weight loss.


The GT350 though... after all the equipment was added, the GT350 stayed about the same as a GTPP. Integrated support...


Ever wonder why the ZL1 Convertible was delayed? Reinforcement was needed ;) I wouldn't hold my breath for a 200lbs weight loss on the ZL1 either. The Vamaro has already begun to gain its weight back.

It's not pure fantasy haha. The 1LE didn't gain 100 pounds overnight lol. It gained less than 80 due to the added features. You're complete comedy man.

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[ZaneWayne]

$60k and under:
The GT350 is the BEST car!
The BMW M2 is a great car.
The FocusRS is an AWESOME car.
The 1LE is a chinsy, cheap, cluasterphobic, impractical, 100% track-focus GovMoPOS.

Just sayin'

100 percent track focused? How?

 

[1320']

$60k and under:
The GT350 is the BEST car!
The BMW M2 is a great car.
The FocusRS is an AWESOME car.
The 1LE is a chinsy, cheap, cluasterphobic, impractical, 100% track-focus GovMoPOS.

Just sayin'

I won't argue the first three because they're subjective.

However..you're wrong on the last point about the 1LE, and it reeks of blind fanboyism filled with hyperbole.

Would you like me to break down exactly why you're wrong, or just leave it alone and not embarass you..?

 

[bluebeastsrt]

100 percent track focused? How?

LOL that's all you got out of his rant? Come on buddy. Don't go soft on us.

 

[ZaneWayne]

LOL that's all you got out of his rant? Come on buddy. Don't go soft on us.

Well I have several things I wanted to say. But I already got warned by one of the admins after I obviously jokingly made fun of Ecoverts car. So that's why I keep it super civil haha.

 

[02gtnh]

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/...chief-engineer-al-oppenheiser-on-the-2017-1le

As you can see, Al O touted a 230lbs weight loss. Many independent sites reported a 3650lbs curb weight. The 1Le in the LL was 3743lbs with no options.

thePill reported the ATS-V's curb weight when it went from 3600-3700lbs to 3805lbs. In order for the 1SS to benefit from better tires and suspension, the structure needed reinforced... big time.

It's not a shocker, it was reported as far back as Spring this year. If the 1Le settled for a 130lbs weight loss, the ZL1 will likely use the same reinforcement methods.

Boy, nothing like making up stuff AGAIN. He was talking about the Camaro in general lost 230lbs. He in no way said the 1le lost 230lbs. Nice try.:headbonk:

 

[68fbjjz109]

This thread is getting toxic. There are some good nuggets of information and discussion. But man oh man the shit you have to read through to get it.

 

[EcoVert]

This thread is getting toxic. There are some good nuggets of information and discussion. But man oh man the shit you have to read through to get it.

I think it's time we take some sage advice I got once. Time to stop feeding the camaro trolls

 

[1320']

As long as the Camaro guys only do their arguing here and keep it on topic and civil elsewhere...I'd say it's okay

 

[BigGuy81]

$60k and under:
The GT350 is the BEST car!
The BMW M2 is a great car.
The FocusRS is an AWESOME car.
The 1LE is a chinsy, cheap, cluasterphobic, impractical, 100% track-focus GovMoPOS.

Just sayin'

+1 to ignore list

 

[ZaneWayne]

As long as the Camaro guys only do their arguing here and keep it on topic and civil elsewhere...I'd say it's okay

What would be the point of the versus thread without the other side lol? I can agree that the guys here only to be combative are annoying. But calling us sane Camaro guys trolls, doesn't really help ones case at all.

 

[Seceda91]

Well I have several things I wanted to say. But I already got warned by one of the admins after I obviously jokingly made fun of Ecoverts car. So that's why I keep it super civil haha.

Give him credit for supporting Ford. Almost everyone here either has a V8 or like me planning on getting a v8.

 

[02gtnh]

As long as the Camaro guys only do their arguing here and keep it on topic and civil elsewhere...I'd say it's okay

For the most, the conversation goes good. But there's a couple in this thread that all they do is dog anyone who has anything positive about the Camaro instead of bringing anything constructive to the thread. :shrug:

 

[ZaneWayne]

Give him credit for supporting Ford. Almost everyone here either has a V8 or like me planning on getting a v8.

I was 100 percent f'in joking, I drove a V6 for a long time and there is little shame in driving a V6 or 4 cylinder. But he lost his marbles. If he would have laughed it off, like he should have, I would not have been warned.

 

[68fbjjz109]

What would be the point of the versus thread without the other side lol? I can agree that the guys here only to be combative are annoying. But calling us sane Camaro guys trolls, doesn't really help ones case at all.

I happen to agree. I don't have that much time to go over to C6.com, but I haven't really had any problems. Anxiously waiting to really drive a friend of a friends Camaro.

Ninja edit:

Zayne is your dealer ordering a 1LE?

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