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Does the Shelby GT350R Make More Power Than the Regular GT350? (w/Video)

By now, you might have seen our dyno tests of both the 2016 Ford Mustang Shelby GT350 and its more extreme GT350R sibling.

To the seat of our pants, the R felt stronger than the base GT350. Our Vbox agreed—though there was a negligible 67-pound weight difference between the two, the R beat the GT350 on both 0-60 (by 0.2 second, 3.9 seconds versus 4.1) and through the quarter mile (12.1 seconds at 119.6 mph versus 12.4 at 117.8 mph). We chalked the slight differences up to tire grip (the R wears much more aggressive rubber), and indeed the two cars posted identical 1.7-second 45-65-mph passing numbers.

And then we drove them back-to-back, and the R felt far quicker. Livelier, too—but also much lighter. We could explain most of that away because of the wheels. The GT350R wears wheels made of carbon-fiber, saving a claimed 60 pounds over conventional wheels. That much rotating mass is a lot—and that could easily explain the difference in what we felt. But since the engines have such different exhaust notes (the R is missing the GT350's intermediate resonator), we wanted to make sure Ford hadn't given the R a special tune. So we strapped both to the dyno to find out.

The results? Indeed the GT350R made more power throughout the rev range. Here are the peak numbers: GT350: 467 hp @ 7200 rpm (wheels) GT350R: 471 hp @ 7200 rpm (wheels) Oh, but before you go telling your friends that the GT350R's engine is more powerful: Don't. A chassis dyno measures how quickly a car is able to accelerate a fixed mass and then calculates the engine's output based on that rate of acceleration. The GT350R's lower rotating mass, thanks to its carbon-fiber wheels, will give its engine an apparent advantage on the dyno. Without swapping the wheels between the two cars, which we weren't able to do, we can't account for that difference. But more important, the 6-hp difference between the two cars is insignificant. At just over 1 percent difference, it's far less than the variance we saw between multiple runs on the same car. The GT350R did two runs, both at 471 hp, but the GT350's runs varied by a massive 27 hp at the wheels.

The ambient air temperature was to blame for that significant difference. Before we installed a sixth (!) fan to blow cold air directly at the intake, the Mustang's computer reported intake air temperatures over 115 degrees. With the fans, both cars provided consistent results with intake air temperatures around 100 degrees. Additionally, the shape of the curves is so similar that it's hard to believe there's any tuning difference between the two engines—and indeed watching the ignition-advance curves, the two engines were doing the same thing at the same time. So does the GT350R make more power? Yep, a couple horsepower more at the wheels thanks to its lighter wheels. But Ford's identical 526-hp rating at the engine? Legit.

See the graphs below.

2016-ford-mustang-gt350-vs-gt350r-dyno-comparison.jpg


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Cup 2's on the non-R will surely narrow that narrow gap already. These cars are knocking on 11.9 times @ 120+ mph. A great 60' launch can do it. :thumbsup:
 
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yea im jist a little disappointed i though the would be high 11's atleast the R
 

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Quicker than the z/28 and trapped higher (12.1 @119 > 12.3 @116). What does it cost again? Nothing to be disappointed about IMO. These aren't even the #'s it is supposed to shine in. Now let's get some lap times..
 

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Quicker than the z/28 and trapped higher (12.1 @119 > 12.3 @116). What does it cost again? Nothing to be disappointed about IMO. These aren't even the #'s it is supposed to shine in. Now let's get some lap times..

MT trapped 117.2 with a 12.3. Pretty much even with the TP.


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Quicker than the z/28 and trapped higher (12.1 @119 > 12.3 @116). What does it cost again? Nothing to be disappointed about IMO. These aren't even the #'s it is supposed to shine in. Now let's get some lap times..
Right. And let's get some numbers from the other mags.
 

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I like how they point out rotating mass advantage of the R. 100lbs is typically 2-3 10ths in the quarter. Lighter wheels are an awesome thing. With 119mph trap speed that thing should roll mid to low 11s on a good track with the right tire and driver. Imagine an Auto in a GT with the 5.2 FPC and losing 100lbs.
 

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I wouldn't put too much faith in these #'s. Motor Trend has tended to always be slow. I think they hold their Starbucks in the left hand while they are trying to shift.

I never go by much of what they print.
 

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Quicker than the z/28 and trapped higher (12.1 @119 > 12.3 @116). What does it cost again? Nothing to be disappointed about IMO. These aren't even the #'s it is supposed to shine in. Now let's get some lap times..

I'm glad someone gets it. So many people are freaking out because it's not a drag queen.
 

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Just wait until these cars get into the hands of a capable driver.
 

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I'm glad someone gets it. So many people are freaking out because it's not a drag queen.
This has been preached ad nauseum, especially by The Pill, I and others. For some reason, some people still wanna make a roadcourse car a dragster.

I don't care about how this car performs at the strip. And why do I care if it's only modestly faster than the 12/13 B302 at the strip? I would attribute the low-end grunt (torque at lower RPM's) as a reason for the comparable performance of the B302 compared to the 350.

However, where this car shines, from my experience with the minimal exposure I've had with the 350 in comparison to my B302, is the availability of power at RPM ranges suitable to track demands.

I personally am tired of hearing about drag times and projections with the 350. Who cares?
 
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This wasn't your typical timed test. They didn't do stopping,g's , mt track loop and what equipment was used ? Very brief @ best and people like Evan Smith will get accurate real time numbers for sure.
 

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This wasn't your typical timed test. They didn't do stopping,g's , mt track loop and what equipment was used ? Very brief @ best and people like Evan Smith will get accurate real time numbers for sure.

Evan has driven the car at Bradenton Motorsports Park. He helped with the development of the "Drag Race settings in the Driving Modes. Unfortunately, he is bound to a gag order and cannot comment on the cars performance. :frusty:
 

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Evan has driven the car at Bradenton Motorsports Park. He helped with the development of the "Drag Race settings in the Driving Modes. Unfortunately, he is bound to a gag order and cannot comment on the cars performance. :frusty:
Well there you have it , we just need to be patient. When I say patient I'm taking next week :ford:
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