23 Mach 1 vs. 24 Dark Horse

[young at heart]

Those wheels look great on that car. Congrats.

Thanks, man!

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[Nickel]

Ha! You’re probably right but at my age I’ve kinda given up trying to please anyone except myself. Well, and of course the family CFO! She saw the pic and actually encouraged me.

I do like your car. It's a Mach 1 after all. It was a snobby comment for giggles that turned into a debate.

 

[Mikepol2]

Personally I still struggle to like the appearance of the 24’s. Have seen plenty in person, including a Blue Ember DH that I was going to test drive until the dealer said only if I buy. I still see them coming at me and have to try and figure out if it’s a Mustang or an Accord, and from the side if it’s a Mustang or a Camaro. Not saying it’s ugly, it’s just not a car that is unique or stands out to me in any way, except for the tail lights which are not yet growing on me. I actually much prefer the appearance of the GT over the DH due to the lack of all the black hood graphics and raccoon front end. This has nothing to do with envy or hating, I could trade the Mach on a DH anytime I wanted to, I just haven’t wanted to yet.

 

[RTFM]

I do like your car. It's a Mach 1 after all.

I am not so sure from that angle. Might also be a Suzuki Cappuccino or a Scion FR-S. Looks a bit too like that new GTD but without the huge wing. Or is it a Camaro wide-body kit?
Cars all look the same these days.

 

[ChitownStang]

I'm a snob


Front splitter and rear wing. And that wing actually adds about 240 lbs of downforce. But to be clear, have you ever driven on 305/315 Sport Cup 2's? That alone is a game changer. It's like cheating.

Dude, you are off on your comments.
Personally I did not want the massive Cup 2's , Large wing , and splitter that does not work where I drive.
Transmission is personal preference.
Everything else is basically the same.
I made my Mach 1 Premium exactly what I needed it to be and just because it's not the HP doesn't mean shit IMO .

 

[13GetThere]

Okay, I just feel like stirring the pot. When the 21 Mach 1 came out both the base and the HP excited me, but only the HP would be a step up for me, and the base would be a step down from my PP2. I know, the coolers and the transmission were an improvement, but something I didn't need. I even test drove a base Mach 1 and couldn't tell much difference, and then there was the tire difference. And yeah, those big SC2's make a difference.
Now if you're into it, you can turn a base Mach 1 into a HP and so much more. But if you're like me, you want pay and play with minimal mods. If I could have afforded it at the time, I might have traded for a HP but not a base.
Right now I'm married to my PP2 that was a virgin that I know, and not willing to leave her for the divorced HP that I don't know.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Okay, I just feel like stirring the pot. When the 21 Mach 1 came out both the base and the HP excited me, but only the HP would be a step up for me, and the base would be a step down from my PP2. I know, the coolers and the transmission were an improvement, but something I didn't need. I even test drove a base Mach 1 and couldn't tell much difference, and then there was the tire difference. And yeah, those big SC2's make a difference.
Now if you're into it, you can turn a base Mach 1 into a HP and so much more. But if you're like me, you want pay and play with minimal mods. If I could have afforded it at the time, I might have traded for a HP but not a base.
Right now I'm married to my PP2 that was a virgin that I know, and not willing to leave her for the divorced HP that I don't know.

People act like wider tires and wheels turn the base M1 into a Shelby or something.

Honestly if the Tremec, intake, and tuning aren't enough to get you excited, you're probably looking at the wrong car.

 

[Gregdd]

ONLY the HP. The base might as well be a Bullitt or a PP1 with Magneride.

I really get a kick out of the never ending bragging about the hp option being a better car. Wake up. It's been beat to death. Mach 1 HP snobs are just like all the other mustang snobs. You are a better than everyone else because you have an option that can be easily leap frogged. A-hole.

 

[young at heart]

I really get a kick out of the never ending bragging about the hp option being a better car. Wake up. It's been beat to death. Mach 1 HP snobs are just like all the other mustang snobs. You are a better than everyone else because you have an option that can be easily leap frogged. A-hole.

It‘s always kinda cracked me up too.

If it were a rules violation to make it a suffix on forum signature vehicle declarations I wonder how many they’d sell. I mean, it’s an option for goodness sake, not a separate model. How does “2023 Mach 1 Elite Package” sound? Maybe a little snooty?

You can only go so fast on the street no matter how capable your car is. Maybe if you’re tracking your car a lot (which I do not) it’d be a deal. But I’ve always wondered if real serious track guys might replace some of the HP components with harder core parts anyhow. IDK.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

I really get a kick out of the never ending bragging about the hp option being a better car. Wake up. It's been beat to death. Mach 1 HP snobs are just like all the other mustang snobs. You are a better than everyone else because you have an option that can be easily leap frogged. A-hole.

Especially when they don't even track their car. Because paying for that useless bragging right makes your wee wee bigger.

 

[BossPapa]

So I’m going to admit that I commented earlier about not really liking the DH which is where this post got started, however after seeing some of you going after others regarding what makes a Mustang right in your eyes and what you don’t like about others options choices has me now thinking all of us are Mustang folks at heart and part of a great club. I attended a local Mustang club event today and enjoyed talking to other Mustang owners about a wide variety of cars there and think all of them are great in their own way. I’ll step off my soapbox now…

 

[Rael]

People, we're all part of the same continuum. Some of us have never driven on a track. Some of us have a little track experience. Some of us do it a lot. Mustangs suit us all, and they are not all alike. Kumbaya.

(Separately, I believe everyone would benefit from only a single day of track instruction. It is enlightening even if it is not addicting.)

 

[Nickel]

Especially when they don't even track their car. Because paying for that useless bragging right makes your wee wee bigger.

If you're talking about me, I do track my car. Primarily courses in the Southeast. Just thought I'd throw that in there just in case.

 

[ChitownStang]

I put lighter wheels, 2 piece slotted rotors, and some sub-frame braces on my non-hp Mach. Oh yeah and Wengerd E85 tune.
I’ll smoke any Hp Mach on track or street!

 

[Rael]

You'd smoke me with no mods.

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