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[TheRican]

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[R 350 gt Donson]

Talked with my dealer today, they are only getting a GT350R (shocked) they will want at least 15K over but may take 10 over. Now I just got first on their list if they get a GT350 allocation in 16 or 17. I can't afford a R

The only way a dealer gets an "R" is they must get 3 NON "R" and one "R" (4 GT350's total) I have talk to way to many dealers that have said this.....you might want to get back with them on the news I just gave you, and talk to the GM.

 

[DrumReaper]

Thats interesting... So for every 3 GT350's an R is allocated? And early on it was said it was all a lottery.

 

[sticker]

New stuff is sold on Ebay, not sure you knew that. Including cars. Including over sticker. Not sure where you're getting your logic? GT350 is not mass produced in comparison to standard production Mustang.

Supply vs Demand on any luxury item. Why is this so difficult for some here to understand? :shrug:

Not to bust your piñata but a vehicle produced by the thousands readily fits into the category of "mass produced". You will easily see 15 or 20 thousand of these 350s built over the next few years if it is not soon overshadowed by a monstrous GT500 and the buyers are there. It is not how many can Ford build it is how many can they sell. The market for this car at these prices is so small that it barely exists. The fact is that 99.99% of the population would never buy one. These GT350s are very exciting, desirable cars but not exactly hand built F45s or Enzos. The hype that always accompanies the sales of this type of vehicle is certainly entertaining.

 

[Strokerswild]

The hype that always accompanies the sales of this type of vehicle is certainly entertaining.

Agreed.

I remember when the '07 GT500 bowed back in 2006, you would have thought it was the Second Coming (or whatever equivalent religious event you wish to substitute). Years later, ~40K built, common here among the old fart Corvette crowd that idle them around roll-ins (but a great base for a strip car).

Side note: I actually preferred my '09 Bullitt to my GT500, far better balanced and fun to drive.

 

[PP0001]

Not to bust your piñata but a vehicle produced by the thousands readily fits into the category of "mass produced". You will easily see 15 or 20 thousand of these 350s built over the next few years if it is not soon overshadowed by a monstrous GT500 and the buyers are there. It is not how many can Ford build it is how many can they sell. The market for this car at these prices is so small that it barely exists. The fact is that 99.99% of the population would never buy one. These GT350s are very exciting, desirable cars but not exactly hand built F45s or Enzos. The hype that always accompanies the sales of this type of vehicle is certainly entertaining.

I appreciate your comments but where do you get your production figures from?

Of course you know that there will be a total of only 137 GT350's built for the 2015 model year?

Having said that are you suggesting that we can expect 8,000 to 10,000 Shelby GT350's to be built each year for 2016 and 2017?

Unless you can show me something from Ford providing this kind of projected production volumes you cannot come close to be taken seriously and your comments are totally out of line?

:shrug:

 

[Blk2015GT]

Key words built over the NEXT FEW YEARS. The people who want one NOW will pay more. Period. You are more than free to wait a year or 2 and I'm 100% sure you will get it at MSRP or maybe less once demand dies down.

But instant gratification, firs ton the block, is a psychological way of life- that is why people have lined up, yes camped out in the streets, for 8 years to get an iphone (and sell their line spots for big bucks), even when you can wait and get one from the comfort of home a week or 2 later when stock picks up; exactly what I do every year. I can wait a few weeks- self control.

This is purely the laws of economics. Don't want to wait, pay up. Ok to wait? You'll be fine getting one at MRSP in a year or maybe 2.

The market for these cars is also just fine; in fact the hype is everywhere for this car and not only in the car world. This has nothing to do with collectible Ferraris. This car starts at a whopping $50k. How many $50k+ sporty/sports cars do you see a day? dozens? All potential buyers. That is what makes the demand so much higher- it is so cheap for what it is compared to what you get from other brands.

Next...

 

[Cruzinaround]

I appreciate your comments but where do you get your production figures from?

Of course you know that there will be a total of only 137 GT350's built for the 2015 model year?

Having said that are you suggesting that we can expect 8,000 to 10,000 Shelby GT350's to be built each year for 2016 and 2017?

Unless you can show me something from Ford providing this kind of projected production volumes you cannot come close to be taken seriously and your comments are totally out of line?

:shrug:

Use the Boss 302 model run for an example.

So maybe 3 to 4 years for the GT350 possibly a slight model refresh in the last year.

So 5000 units per year from 2016,17. then 2018 and posibbly 2019. Maybe an overlap in year 3 and 4 with a Mach1 and/or GT500 refresh.

So 15 to 20 thousand GT350's in the USA alone...sounds about right.

 

[Cruzinaround]

Key words built over the NEXT FEW YEARS. The people who want one NOW will pay more. Period. You are more than free to wait a year or 2 and I'm 100% sure you will get it at MSRP or maybe less once demand dies down.

But instant gratification, firs ton the block, is a psychological way of life- that is why people have lined up, yes camped out in the streets, for 8 years to get an iphone (and sell their line spots for big bucks), even when you can wait and get one from the comfort of home a week or 2 later when stock picks up; exactly what I do every year. I can wait a few weeks- self control.

This is purely the laws of economics. Don't want to wait, pay up. Ok to wait? You'll be fine getting one at MRSP in a year or maybe 2.

The market for these cars is also just fine; in fact the hype is everywhere for this car and not only in the car world. This has nothing to do with collectible Ferraris. This car starts at a whopping $50k. How many $50k+ sporty/sports cars do you see a day? dozens? All potential buyers. That is what makes the demand so much higher- it is so cheap for what it is compared to what you get from other brands.

Next...

Maybe. If you value a motor and the magneride above amenities. However, for most people looking for a car they can live with everyday.....Then it has a lot to compete with. On the high and low...just comparing to the BASE model GT350

GT350 $47,870 MSRP + $10k ADM = $57,870 MSRP

1. Corvette Stingray ($55,000)
2. BMW M3 ($62,000)
3. Porsche Cayman S ($63,800)
4. Cadillac ATS-V Coupe ($60,465)
5. Mercedes C63 ($63,900)
6. Audi RS5 ($70,900)
7. 2015 Porsche Cayman. Starts at 60k
8. 2015 Dodge Challenger Hellcat. Starts at 59k
9. 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Z51 Coupe 58k.
10. 2015 Mercedes CLA 45 AMG. Starts at 50k.
11. TT- RS 58k
12. ZL1 56k
13. 370Z Nismo 43k
14. Z06 80k

etc, etc, etc.....

 

[PP0001]

Use the Boss 302 model run for an example.

So maybe 3 to 4 years for the GT350 possibly a slight model refresh in the last year.

So 5000 units per year from 2016,17. then 2018 and posibbly 2019. Maybe an overlap in year 3 and 4 with a Mach1 and/or GT500 refresh.

So 15 to 20 thousand GT350's in the USA alone...sounds about right.

Maybe reread the original post where it was stated that we will easily see 15,000 to 20,000 GT350's assembled over the next few years.

A few years to me means 3 years and with only 137 units being built in 2015 that would still leave 15,000 to 20,000 units to be built for 2016 and 2017.

If we use your example of the 2 year Boss run along with the production run numbers for 2015 that still only comes out to ~8500 GT350's produced over the next 3 years.

I am not sure what math you are used to using but 15,000 to 20,000 units is a long ways from 8500.

Having said that I am sure that you will find a way to justify 15,000 to 20,000 units built over the next few years and if so please provide some documentation to back up your claim?

:shrug:

 

[cjgt350]

I don't buy it either. Look at Ford's history of special edition performance cars that accompanied regular production cars. The Cobra R, Boss 302, etc. I have seen nothing official but Ford does have a habit of sticking to their limited production special edition history. The closest resemblance to what appears to be taking place with the GT350 production speculation is the Boss 302's production run. What really happens I guess will remain to be seen.

Ford quickly reached a self-imposed 4,000-unit production limit of 2013 Boss 302s earlier this year, marking the end of the Boss 302's run in the current-generation Mustang body style. Ford also made 4,000 Boss 302s for the 2012 model year; of each year's total production run of Boss 302s, 750 were equipped with the track-specific Laguna Seca package.

 

[Cruzinaround]

Maybe reread the original post where it was stated that we will easily see 15,000 to 20,000 GT350's assembled over the next few years.

A few years to me means 3 years and with only 137 units being built in 2015 that would still leave 15,000 to 20,000 units to be built for 2016 and 2017.

If we use your example of the 2 year Boss run along with the production run numbers for 2015 that still only comes out to ~8500 GT350's produced over the next 3 years.

I am not sure what math you are used to using but 15,000 to 20,000 units is a long ways from 8500.

Having said that I am sure that you will find a way to justify 15,000 to 20,000 units built over the next few years and if so please provide some documentation to back up your claim?

:shrug:

Well you're writing like a spoiled child. Not that you are. You're just coming off that way, as if you're stamping your feet demanding proof in writing when its not necessary.

Making projections based on the past it becomes very plausible that the same will be repeated here. No documentation required since its referencing past actions on a specialty car production run that is not a GT500.

And you can also discount the addition of 2015 since it is a release for homologation purposes so they can compete sooner than later in events such as Watkin's Glenn, being discussed in another thread.

If the car sells nearly all if not all the production in the first year(we're speaking 2016)...it will see more built in the following years. Because it makes money and is a draw for FORD to sell more performance car models to the same demographic.

 

[chopsui]

The Ford guys in interviews have all stated that the GT350 production numbers will be less than the S197 GT500 and a bit more than the Boss 302s. That is on record. What isn't on record, as far as I know, is how many years they will produce the car. But the only credible info that I've seen is that it will only be 2 years (excluding the 2015's) This comes from the GT350 program agreement that the dealers signed up for in order to sell the 350. I'm pretty sure it only specified 2016 and 2017. Also, I remember someone posting a while back that Voodoo production was for 2 years.

I have no idea where the speculation about 5-year production runs is coming from. Maybe it will happen, but I've seen no indication other than guys on forums that that's the case.

 

[R 350 gt Donson]

Maybe reread the original post where it was stated that we will easily see 15,000 to 20,000 GT350's assembled over the next few years.

A few years to me means 3 years and with only 137 units being built in 2015 that would still leave 15,000 to 20,000 units to be built for 2016 and 2017.

If we use your example of the 2 year Boss run along with the production run numbers for 2015 that still only comes out to ~8500 GT350's produced over the next 3 years.

I am not sure what math you are used to using but 15,000 to 20,000 units is a long ways from 8500.

Having said that I am sure that you will find a way to justify 15,000 to 20,000 units built over the next few years and if so please provide some documentation to back up your claim?

:shrug:

I agree with you, and by the way..Jim Owens said 2 year run..so I do not know where this 3-4 years are coming from....

 

[PP0001]

Well you're writing like a spoiled child. Not that you are. You're just coming off that way, as if you're stamping your feet demanding proof in writing when its not necessary.

Making projections based on the past it becomes very plausible that the same will be repeated here. No documentation required since its referencing past actions on a specialty car production run that is not a GT500.

And you can also discount the addition of 2015 since it is a release for homologation purposes so they can compete sooner than later in events such as Watkin's Glenn, being discussed in another thread.

If the car sells nearly all if not all the production in the first year(we're speaking 2016)...it will see more built in the following years. Because it makes money and is a draw for FORD to sell more performance car models to the same demographic.

Not stamping my feet at all but when people make statements such as "sticker" about 15,000 to 20,000 GT350 units to be built over the next few years along with your additional comments suggesting that he is correct then provide all of us with some feedback as to how one or both of you came up with these numbers?

As expected now you are discounting the 2015 model year due to homologation requirements!! :lol:That is really funny!

You don't think that after Ford built the initial 137 units for the 2015 model year in July that in the next 5 months they could not have sold another 2000 to 4000 units as a 2015 model year especially if they met their homologation requirements?

Based on your reasoning they stopped production of the 2015's in the middle of the year just so they could go racing?

Remember it was not me who made these statements based on pure speculation and without any facts to back them up with.

BTW, I can tell you that I am not a spoiled child by any means and am probably close enough in age to be your father. I just happen to have a great passion for the Ford automobile and in particular the Mustang model. It all started back in the 60's when I bought my first Ford vehicle which was a '67 Cougar and then moved over to the Mustang.

:ford:

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