Formula 1 talk.

[HoosierDaddy]

Heard there was floor damage. Probably when he hit the bollard.

The bollard put a hole in the floor. I didn't see anything about the size or location. Would be interested in knowing if there was an immediate and/or chronic loss of lap time afterwards.

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[sk47]

The bollard put a hole in the floor. I didn't see anything about the size or location. Would be interested in knowing if there was an immediate and/or chronic loss of lap time afterwards.

Hello; Guess it remains to be seen if the orange car can outrun a sound RB. Hopes partly dashed.

 

[Inthehighdesert]

Honestly, I don’t think there’s really any mystery there. I’d bet Verstsppen was doing his thing but making sure he didn’t do any additional damage to the car. He seemed to be genuinely happy for Norris, but I don’t think there was any real concern there.

Hello; Guess it remains to be seen if the orange car can outrun a sound RB. Hopes partly dashed.

 

[Yorkshire_OH]

Hello; Recorded and watched the sprint race today.
Miami GP Sprint result changed as Lewis Hamilton receives huge penalty (msn.com)

What is a puzzle is how the penalties are applied. I did not watch the past sprint race but according to talking heads calling todays sprint race there was an incident last time by Alonzo and Alonzo got a penalty for it. Today Hamilton caused a collision described as similar to Alonzo's. Hamilton does not get a penalty for that but gets one for speeding in the pit lane.

Norris who was pinned by Hamilton and another car and knocked out of the race gets a penalty for walking on the track or some such during a safety car, but the drivers who broke his car go free.

I was hoping the revised orange car (Norris) would shine. Maybe tomorrow???

Can't defend Hamilton on that sprint race mess. The FIA said originally that they didn't see anyone predominantly to blame... errr, do you have eyes! totally 100% Hamilton's fault, ruined three other cars races.

Alonso's incident in the previous sprint was reckless too, deserved a penalty but Hamilton deserved a bigger penalty than Alonso. Needs to be more consistency, the FIA claim first lap first corner incidents get more leniency but this was a stupid move and could have been a much bigger incident.

 

[sk47]

Can't defend Hamilton on that sprint race mess. The FIA said originally that they didn't see anyone predominantly to blame... errr, do you have eyes! totally 100% Hamilton's fault, ruined three other cars races.

Alonso's incident in the previous sprint was reckless too, deserved a penalty but Hamilton deserved a bigger penalty than Alonso. Needs to be more consistency, the FIA claim first lap first corner incidents get more leniency but this was a stupid move and could have been a much bigger incident.

Hello; I have not read the articles but see that Alonzo is fussing about being treated unfairly. Guess for the same incidents.

 

[Bikeman315]

I’ll watch the race when return home on Saturday. So I’m guessing this is what cost Max the race?

 

[gixxersixxerman]

Can't defend Hamilton on that sprint race mess. The FIA said originally that they didn't see anyone predominantly to blame... errr, do you have eyes! totally 100% Hamilton's fault, ruined three other cars races.

Alonso's incident in the previous sprint was reckless too, deserved a penalty but Hamilton deserved a bigger penalty than Alonso. Needs to be more consistency, the FIA claim first lap first corner incidents get more leniency but this was a stupid move and could have been a much bigger incident.

Lewis had a part in the fault, but Alonso was already into Stroll before Lewis got there. Was it enough to cause Lando incident before Lewis hit them??? Who knows. but I think this is why they didn't penalize Lewis. If you watch it in slow motion on YT at this point Lewis isnt even there yet and Alonso has already hit Stroll

This is right before they touched and Stroll is already going around

Now Alonso I'm sure reacted to Lewis being there and caused the direction change on his steering wheel. Again, this is why I think the stewards didn't penalize Lewis, Turn 1 and Alonso already hit Stroll.

Another angle where you see Alonso into Stroll before Hamilton smashed his way in

 

[sk47]

Lewis had a part in the fault, but Alonso was already into Stroll before Lewis got there. Was it enough to cause Lando incident before Lewis hit them??? Who knows. but I think this is why they didn't penalize Lewis. If you watch it in slow motion on YT at this point Lewis isnt even there yet and Alonso has already hit Stroll

This is right before they touched and Stroll is already going around

Now Alonso I'm sure reacted to Lewis being there and caused the direction change on his steering wheel. Again, this is why I think the stewards didn't penalize Lewis, Turn 1 and Alonso already hit Stroll.

Another angle where you see Alonso into Stroll before Hamilton smashed his way in

Hello; Nice try. No question others were going for the same soon to vanish hole. An omitted thing is your presentation is Lewis is a two or three time champion and by now ought to know better that there would not be a place for him to exist. All these drivers ought to know better and very likely do. They take unreasonable chances during the starts and first few curves because the series makes passing so difficult.

But some convoluted defense of Lewis is not actually the point in this case. I did not se the pat race incident where Alonzo is reported to have done something similarly dumb and was punished. I first learned of that from the race announcers. The similarity of the separate incidences stood out to them enough to spend some time talking about it. I get that it is a F1 race, so they have to find something to talk about.

Seems the question is why one gets punished, and the other does not. I think I know the answer by the way. Just do not see why Lewis still gets a pass anymore.

 

[Yorkshire_OH]

Yeah I admit, this is pretty damming. Alonso was lucky Lewis tried to throw it up the inside so he could say he was taking avoiding action. there's no way Alonso had already reacted to Lewis at this point.
Having said that, Lewis was still bloody stupid there.. what's the saying, you cant win a race at turn 1. But you can certainly lose the race.

 

[Skye]

https://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31567&start=510

McLaren have been on an upswing since last year. The link above highlights the most recent changes to the car, between China and Miami.

With that, I've been tracking and watching the World Endurance Championship more and more.

https://www.fiawec.com/en/

Things to like:

- The season is shorter, so races and points take on more importance

- With a larger and enclosed cockpit, there are a lot more "goodies" to watch and pay attention to

- Different levels of cars competing on the same course. Overtaking has to happen

- With re-fueling, tire and driver changes, strategy can become critical

- I've been surprised by the level of camera coverage. Heavily-detailed tear-downs can often be seen

- Overall, more driver, team and car engagement with the fans and viewers

 

[Inthehighdesert]

WEC is great for fans. Even better in person.

https://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31567&start=510

McLaren have been on an upswing since last year. The link above highlights the most recent changes to the car, between China and Miami.

With that, I've been tracking and watching the World Endurance Championship more and more.

https://www.fiawec.com/en/

Things to like:

- The season is shorter, so races and points take on more importance

- With a larger and enclosed cockpit, there are a lot more "goodies" to watch and pay attention to

- Different levels of cars competing on the same course. Overtaking has to happen

- With re-fueling, tire and driver changes, strategy can become critical

- I've been surprised by the level of camera coverage. Heavily-detailed tear-downs can often be seen

- Overall, more driver, team and car engagement with the fans and viewers

 

[Bikeman315]

A “real” racetrack!

 

[Yorkshire_OH]

Hearing rumours of a Chicago F1 race from 2026...

 

[Bikeman315]

Hearing rumours of a Chicago F1 race from 2026...

Seems to be a continuing rumor.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/spo... for months about,for a Chicago race, however.

 

[Skye]

https://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31510&start=600

Link above will allow you to scroll through before-and-after pics of Ferrari's upgrades at Imola.

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