Carbon trap removal, +18 hp ??

[robvas]

LMR found 14hp

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[RocketGuy3]

18 hp wouldn't be enough for you to feel anyway. So any difference you're feeling is most likely either even greater than 18 hp if it's legitimately noticeable, or it's mostly in your head... Unless there was a significant change to the torque curve.

 

[Dan2023]

Now that I’ve been driving my car around for a couple days and really getting into it on open roads and the highway there is definitely an increase in torque and horsepower, as for one post saying that you wouldn’t able to feel an 18 hp increase, I beg to differ, if you know and understand the feel of your vehicle you will notice that difference,
just saying

 

[WildHorse]

Now that I’ve been driving my car around for a couple days and really getting into it on open roads and the highway there is definitely an increase in torque and horsepower, as for one post saying that you wouldn’t able to feel an 18 hp increase, I beg to differ, if you know and understand the feel of your vehicle you will notice that difference,
just saying

there's numerous other factors that come into play. But as long as yer happy !

 

[Jerry Carguy]

Only on mach ones?

 

[steathv]

Also an increase on base 5.0 - 10 whp. I put a 21 air box on mine and a definite improvement. Was also able to have the car tuned as a 2021. Tuner verified the increase. 2022 Mustang GT/CS.

 

[BlkMach10510]

there's numerous other factors that come into play. But as long as yer happy !

What other factors besides the dyno?

 

[Dan2023]

there's numerous other factors that come into play. But as long as yer happy !

 

[LOL WUT]

I like to see what fuel trims are doing if you’re modifying the airflow enough to gain 18whp…

 

[tdstuart]

I like to see what fuel trims are doing if you’re modifying the airflow enough to gain 18whp…

They shouldn't change at all as the car should just see more air and add the fuel appropriately.

 

[JetGray_Mach1]

I removed mine on day 1. So I never got to compare to the stock hydrocrap. But 18WHP seems excessive just for that, well I call it 480hp to the crank just like the 2021 Mach 1 instead of the 470hp.

So either the Dyno done by that youtuber was inaccurate OR the 2021 Mach 1 had more than the advertised 480hp?

 

[BlkMach10510]

I removed mine on day 1. So I never got to compare to the stock hydrocrap. But 18WHP seems excessive just for that, well I call it 480hp to the crank just like the 2021 Mach 1 instead of the 470hp.

So either the Dyno done by that youtuber was inaccurate OR the 2021 Mach 1 had more than the advertised 480hp?

Ford would never give out inaccurate horsepower,i.e. 03-04 Cobra. Tony had 18 rwhp on his dyno and LMR had 14 rwhp.

 

[Skye]

That seems way high for just removing the trap.

I like to see what fuel trims are doing if you’re modifying the airflow enough to gain 18whp…

The 2021 Mach 1 was advertised with a HP of 480. The 2022 Mach 1: 470.

The 2021 GT, HP of 460. The 2022: 450.

On the initial runs and posts I saw, HP numbers were quoted (I forget what they were at the time). Later videos and posts clarified that, during those initial runs, the carbon trap and the inner plastic tube (Mach 1 only) had been removed. The removal of both put the fuel trims at their limit, something the tester did not care for or encourage. The inner tube was put back in-place, while the trap was left out. Fuel trims returned to something more acceptable and no longer at their max.

I thought 10 HP was accepted as the gain. If I'm picking up more, great. I'll take whatever I can get.

Edit,

I can see bringing a 2022 to 2021 levels. But if the 18 HP gain is correct (with the removal of the trap only), how am I gaining still more power, over a 2021?

 

[BlkMach10510]

This thread talks about the Mustang GT and Mach 1 hydrocarbon trap.

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/look-what-i-discovered-in-my-22-.179049/

 

[LOL WUT]

They shouldn't change at all as the car should just see more air and add the fuel appropriately.

But most cold air intakes require a tune right?

While the car can make adjustments, I’d imagine that if we are changing air flow enough to gain 18HP, the trims are worth looking at.

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