Science is now cancelled? [USERS NOW BANNED FOR POLITICS]

[Burkey]

The redwoods prove natural climate changes in their rings.

Who is sugggesting that the the climate hasn’t always been changing?

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[CEHollier]

Who is sugggesting that the the climate hasn’t always been changing?

Natural being the operative word vs man made. There is a big difference.

 

[sk47]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/01/tesla-model-s-plaid-caught-fire-while-being-driven-fire-chief.html
25k gallons.

Hello; 25,000 gallons of water to put out an EV compared to 300 for an ICE.

 

[Burkey]

Natural being the operative word vs man made. There is a big difference.

Do you think the planet cares where the GHG’s come from? Yeah, ok, the isotopes differ netween CO2 produced from the burning of fossil fuels vs other sources, but it’s still C02.
Tell you what. How about we remove ALL the GHG’s from the atmosphere and you can tell us more about how humans can’t influence the planets climate….

 

[CEHollier]

Tell you what. How about we remove ALL the GHG’s from the atmosphere and you can tell us more about how humans can’t influence the planets climate….

Remove all CO2 from the earths atmosphere and all plant life on this planet would die. And so would we. On the bright side higher CO2 atmospheric levels improve crop yields.

 

[Burkey]

Hello; 25,000 gallons of water to put out an EV compared to 300 for an ICE.

And?

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Hello; 25,000 gallons of water to put out an EV compared to 300 for an ICE.

Which is why EVs were banned for so long on Arrakis and should be in California.

 

[CEHollier]

And?

I believe he is talking about manufacturing. Using 83X's more water resource to build an EV vs ICE vehicle. Which getting back to the original subject California droughts would be a big deal for any Tesla plant located there.

 

[sk47]

I believe he is talking about manufacturing. Using 83X's more water resource to build an EV vs ICE vehicle. Which getting back to the original subject California droughts would be a big deal for any Tesla plant located there.

Hello; I was actually refering to how it takes so much more water to put out an EV fire compared to an ICE vehicle fire as was mentioned in an earlier post. Which to me means a fire truck will not carry enough water on it's own. Probably will need a hydrant near by. My brother who is a mine safety instructor mentioned that foam may be used.

But you bring up an interesting question. I figure for the chassis and body panels the water use to build an EV ought to be similar. Not sure about water use to mine the materials for batteries and make the batteries.

 

[CEHollier]

Hello; I was actually refering to how it takes so much more water to put out an EV fire compared to an ICE vehicle fire as was mentioned in an earlier post. Which to me means a fire truck will not carry enough water on it's own. Probably will need a hydrant near by. My brother who is a mine safety instructor mentioned that foam may be used.

But you bring up an interesting question. I figure for the chassis and body panels the water use to build an EV ought to be similar. Not sure about water use to mine the materials for batteries and make the batteries.

Sorry for any confusion. I remember reading an article comparing CO2 production building an EV vs ICE. There was significantly more CO2 produced mining rare earth minerals for EV batteries vs ICE. So I presumed the same for water. This ridiculous though crossed my mind. If it takes that much water to put out an EV fire. California may pass laws to let EV fires burn themselves out. Deeming the amount of water to put the fire out a waste of resources. The house be damned.

 

[Burkey]

Sorry for any confusion. I remember reading an article comparing CO2 production building an EV vs ICE. There was significantly more CO2 produced mining rare earth minerals for EV batteries vs ICE. So I presumed the same for water. This ridiculous though crossed my mind. If it takes that much water to put out an EV fire. California may pass laws to let EV fires burn themselves out. Deeming the amount of water to put the fire out a waste of resources. The house be damned.

Or they could try innovation….
https://cfpa-e.eu/container-puts-out-inextinguishable-fires-in-electric-cars/

 

[CEHollier]

Or they could try innovation….
https://cfpa-e.eu/container-puts-out-inextinguishable-fires-in-electric-cars/

What if the fire in a house garage? Or a parking garage. That behemoth won't fit in there. If it's in an open area the container really isn't needed. Let it burn itself out. It's the EV fires in a structure that will be the problem. Maybe they can innovate a blanket to wrap the car and smother it with inert gasses.

 

[sk47]

Florida utility company implodes its last coal-powered plant (msn.com)

Hello; So the last coal fired power plant in Florida is history while China is still building new ones and putting them online.

Back to the swimming pool analogy of dividing the pool into a no-pee zone and a pee in the pool zone by stringing a rope across.

While at the same time a volcano eruption may negate all of Floridas actions.

 

[CEHollier]

Florida utility company implodes its last coal-powered plant (msn.com)

Hello; So the last coal fired power plant in Florida is history while China is still building new ones and putting them online.

Back to the swimming pool analogy of dividing the pool into a no-pee zone and a pee in the pool zone by stringing a rope across.

While at the same time a volcano eruption may negate all of Floridas actions.

This is the contradicting policies of western governments that has me questioning their motives. We go poor. China/multinational corporations get richer. WTF???

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