Fly2High
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- 2019 Mustang GT PP2
if you are going to add weight and reduce its performance, you could compare it to a 70's Cadilac because that is where you will end up with. Why, because one can charge more for it? The GT350 IS in that bracket. A buddy just purchased an M2 Comp in the low $40Ks.The Mustang and M2 are in a completely different class. And there is a reason the M2's starting price is $23,000 more than a GT -- you pay to have the technology that allows you to down-size, light-weight, and package the car like a sardine can.
The BRZ/FRS has 1/2 the trunk space of a GT, and a chassis built to handle a 200hp flat-4 -- that's why it is afforded interior room . Once you add length to the front to REALISTICALLY fit a V8 and it's cooling, add an actual trunk, SOME refinement, save room for future hi-po models with superchargers/turbos, intercoolers, heat exchangers, a chassis that can handle the power, and you crash test it, you are going to have a bigger/heavier car.
You can't even compare your TC -- it front wheel drive. Not even remotely similar.
Who says you have to compete only on price. from all the magazine testing, they put the M2 against the Camaro and Mustang all the time. Size and performance wise, it is in the same bracket. Just maybe not your price bracket.
Does it take 600 lbs to get modern safety standards? There are so many cars out there that are not that heavy. Look at the Camaro. It is about 200 lbs lighter.Yes, with 1980s safety gear, crash standards, and pedestrian safety standards.
All I am saying, for as long as we are willing to buy a car that weighs more, they will take whatever shortcuts the market will afford.
More weight means less economy which is ironically the opposite way they need to go. the way they get around this is by enlarging the car so they move to a more lax larger category.
To me, This will be my last Mustang if all they keep doing is getting heavier and bigger. IMHO, they have done more with less before and I think they are saving weight savings as a last resort to meet federal standards. Once they go too big or gas becomes too expensive, we will require they get smaller and lighter.
If they are not willing to make a smaller Mustang, they should do what Toyota is doing and make 3 sporty cars. Leave the Mustang as a drag car and give those who like to turn a track car. for all of you who need the space, they will sell a chrome shoe horn to help you get in.
From the other thread (https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/th...he-mustangs-future.136176/page-2#post-2801266), Ford is starting to think 0-60 isn't enough anymore. they need other metrics. i wouldn't be surprised they drop the weight and focus more on handling and possibly slim down to get there.
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